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Ep. 07 | The Most Powerful and Underused NPO Tool: An Interview with Patrick Kirby, Do Good Better Consulting

Our Guest: Patrick Kirby, Founder of Do Good Better Consulting

About Do Good Better Consulting: Patrick started Do Good Better as “a firm that helps nonprofits suck less at fundraising”, and he means that “with the most adoration”. The basics-of-the-basics is what Patrick loves helping NPOs master. Consulting, podcast, events, and Do Good YOUniversity are all plates Patrick is keeping spinning currently.

(4:00) Five Day Fundraising Framework

(7:25) "The last thing people remember is that handwritten thank you note.” - Patrick Kirby

(9:30) “I have never, in the 20 years that I have been doing fundraising, never been punched in the face for calling to say ‘hi’ or ‘thank you’, and I’ve also never been punched in the face for asking for money.”  - Patrick Kirby

(10:10) How to stay top-of-mind with your donors

(11:00) A great question for donors

(13:25) Do Good YOUniversity

(18:40) Do Good Better on the road

(22:15) Consulting

Patrick’s Pro Tip: “Pick up the damn phone.” 

Golden BTD Nugget: The power of picking up the phone and to convey your enthusiasm and gratitude with your voice is hard to throw off.

Patrick’s Bonus Tip: Don’t wait until the end of the year to call people to say thank you.

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What is a donor pipeline and why does it matter?

A donor pipeline is a living map of your relationships in motion — who's new and curious, who's engaged and ready for a next step, and who's already an advocate. Without one, you confuse activity with progress and your fundraising swings unpredictably from quarter to quarter. A clear pipeline turns scattered effort into connected progress: you spot drift early and double down on growing relationships.

Last updated
April 25, 2026
How do you keep a donor pipeline moving?

Each donor needs a visible next step, even if it's small — a thank-you, a check-in, a question about what drew them to your mission. Set clear entry points so new contacts auto-tag in your CRM. Use automation for repetitive steps (thank-yous, reminders, drift alerts). Block weekly time to review which relationships are warming up and which are cooling. Consistent motion compounds faster than sporadic effort.

Last updated
April 25, 2026
How do you get a nonprofit board engaged in fundraising?

Set explicit expectations during board recruitment: every board member is expected to give personally, make introductions to their network, and steward assigned donors. Pair each expectation with a tool and training — a board portal view, a sample intro email, a stewardship call template. Engagement follows clarity and tools, not inspiration alone.

Last updated
April 25, 2026
How do nonprofits use storytelling to engage donors?

Use real people — one named beneficiary, one specific moment, one outcome — instead of statistics. Tell stories across every channel in sequence: a longer version on the blog, a condensed version in email, a one-sentence version in text. Donors respond to faces and moments far more reliably than to averages and totals. Stories turn data into meaning.

Last updated
April 25, 2026
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April 29, 2026
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